Kano State Governor, Engineer Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso was the runner up
to General Muahmmadu Buhari(rtd) in the presidential primary of the All
Progressive Congress (APC), which took place in Lagos. Reflecting on
the experience of the primary election, Kwankwaso, in an interview in
Kano, explained that though he came second, he is fulfilled by the
outcome of the exercise. He also took time to comment on his next
political move now that the presidential aspiration is over. He tipped
General Buhari for the presidency come 2015 and held that his military
background will well guide him to deal with the Boko Haram insurgency.
Excerpts.
Now that the presidential primary is over, there are
speculations that your next move is to pick the party’s ticket for Kano
Central Senatorial Zone. To what extent is this true?
A: Thank you very much. Let me welcome you to my office and let me
take this opportunity to thank you, in fact, all of you. Let me also, at
this point, congratulate our leader, General Muhammadu Buhari (rtd.)
for such a wonderful performance and so also the other aspirants, namely
Atiku Abubakar (Turakin Adamawa), my friend Rochas Okoracha and of
course, my friend, who is also your friend , Sam Nda Isaah. Just as we
predicted, the primary election was a family affair. It was done in such
a way that all of us are winners, and all of us pledged to support the
winner before the primary and even after the primary. I thank Almighty
God and I also want to thank the delegates and all those who have
supported us through various means to attain this result. I started
very late and up till this moment, it is not up to two months that I
joined the race. Many people felt that I was not known in the South and
other parts of this country. Despite that, we have seen the performance.
I was second after our candidate, General Muhammadu Buhari. I am happy
that I am now known across the country and that is a good story and a
good story for all our supporters in this state and across the country.
The result didn’t show only the votes from Kano, but showed votes from
across the country. You have seen or heard from the counting that you
will hear “Buhari”, “Buhari” and then “Kwankwaso” “Kwankwaso”. It means
the support is from the whole country, even from the states that we have
governors and states that have no governors, we have supporters there.
And I want to pledge that we would continue to support the party, so
that at the end of the day, APC can win the elections not only in Kano,
but across the country.
On the issue of the senatorial seat, you know that we have just
finished counting our own Kano North Senatorial Zone. The result was
announced late yesterday. As we finished the primary in Lagos, we have
to go and handle the Kano North Senatorial Zone because we had to do it
before 12 mid night yesterday. And the next thing for me now is that I
will come and consult my friends and colleagues right away to discuss
the future, that is, the political future for my humble self and of
course, the other people who are working together with us here in Kano
in the next dispensation.
How do you compare the issue of internal democracy between
APC and PDP, looking at the primaries of the both parties that were
conducted yesterday?
You see the difference is very, very clear. APC is now the PDP of
those days, especially in 1999. That was how we built PDP. We allowed
aspirants to show their interests.
The party supported and encouraged those who are interested to go and
campaign. And it has a lot of advantages, especially if you look at it
from my own context. One, I had to go around the country and convince
many of my friends, those who were in APC as well as those who were in
the other parties. As a result of that, we have so many people who have
now joined APC as a party- not because they were APC or they wanted APC
ordinarily, but because they knew that my leadership would be good for
them and would be good for the country and I can assure you that now
none of them, none of the persons would go back to any other party. They
would stay in APC and support it from the bottom to the top. And so
also are other candidates and aspirants of the party who had gone out
to campaign, especially Sam Ndah Isaiah. Many people didn’t understand
the importance of those10 votes that he got. You know that you can win
or lose elections with 10 votes. In fact, not only in the election like
the one we had which used delegates, even in general elections, you can
lose or win a general election in this country with ten votes. These ten
votes could certainly bring hundreds, even not thousands of votes in
favour of the party. So, we are not talking of the votes that were
recorded for Rochas, Atiku and the ones that were secured by the winner ,
Genera Muhammadu Buhari. So if you put all these efforts together, the
efforts of five aspirants, I am sure that would go a long way. Of
course, you have seen a lot of changes in the last few months
especially as it relate to General Buhari himself. Ordinarily, General
Buhari would not have taken so much time, so much effort to go round
the country to convince people. Now, he is full-fledged politician who
has gone round to ask for support, to ask for understanding, he has
worked like any other politician in this country. And that is what we
want to see, we didn’t want to sit down in a room and look at him and
say let us dash him the ticket. Now, he has earned the ticket for
himself and that has gone a long way in strengthening the party, it has
gone a long way in deepening democracy in this country. If you look at
what he was saying yesterday and even before, he was like any other
polished and experienced politician. That is how it should be. I am
sure that when, by the grace of God, he gets to the Villa, he would be a
wiser politician who would value every delegate, who would value every
state , and who would value every religion, tribe and other differences
across the country. And I am very happy that our party decided to give
us all a level playing ground.
Considering the efforts you put in place before the APC
primary and the outcome- which is known to everybody- do you feel
betrayed by the result?
When I was going into it, I felt certainly I was going to win, but I
became number two . And if you look at the quality of the people in the
race, their experiences, their wealth , I think that everybody should
congratulate me. Many people, especially my friends , I am sure they
have seen on paper that twelve of my colleagues ganged up for Buhari.
And even my former colleagues, many of them were supporting Buhari. When
I read it, when people were telling me, I was just laughing. I
remember.
So, what I believe is that everybody who voted for Buhari is a friend
and if they had known the relationship between me and him… I am sure
you must have known that he was telling the whole world, when asked if
not him who will he support?- he was telling that whole that he would
support Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso. What else do I want? Somebody of his age
and his personality in the society, passing out this information, not to
me but to the hearing of the whole world. So to me, it is as good as I
had won the primary election.
Nigerians have enjoyed your role in calling government to
order. Are you will keep quiet now that there is nothing at stake?
Secondly, in the past, we have people who contested presidential
elections against the PDP- Shekarau, Ribadu- but are now with the PDP.
Sir, would you go the same way?
I think that there is a lot of difference between me and many other
people. For me, I decided to go into politics as a politician. I didn’t
go into politics just to get into positions and enjoy myself. No I am
in politics to better the lives of our people. When I left service in
1991 to join politics, I wasn’t dismissed; I did go out of the service
as a result of frustration. In fact, they have to give me two weeks to
go and think. That was after I gave them my resignation letter. And they
wanted me to stay there because they knew my worth.
I was a professional by any standard when I left service and I was
committed to it. But I felt that I would be useful to myself and the
country if I go into politics. So, I am a politician first and foremost.
If anything comes my way in terms of elected position or appointed, I
welcome it and keep on moving. And that is why over the last 20 years , I
have been in and out , in and out and I think that I am one of the very
few who have been enjoying this experience of going into different
positions and coming out. And it always good to have sucj experience-
because now I am in government, I know how sitting governors feel.
And then outside, because I was outside the government before, I know
the feelings of those who are outside government. So first and
foremost, I am a politician and I am still there and along the line, if I
had won the election yesterday- for example-it would have been a big
challenge. Now, what we have is another challenge because I am now back
to the ground to make sure that PDP is defeated in this state and across
the country. In other words, I want to deliver Kano per cent to APC.
And some of the people I met yesterday after the primary were saying
that you have to be in that Senate- saying with Buhari as the
presidential candidate and me in the senate, it would be very difficult
for anybody to mention any other party other the APC on election day
here in Kano.
While the APC presidential primary was going on, there was
another bomb blast in Kano. i want your official reaction to the blast
and also, your suggestion of how to end this insurgency in the state.
I want to take this opportunity to commiserate with the family of
all those who were involved in the last bomb blast and even to all those
who had been involved in the previous killings in this state and across
the country. It is very sad, it is very unfortunate that we have to be
facing this challenges at this crucial time of our history. If you are
looking for the answer that would end the problem, I believe that the
answer is to have a committed and honest and determined president as
the Commander in Chief. Somebody who has the political will to stop the
killings, not only in Kano but across the country.
Every day, after that bombing, if it is not in Borno, it is in Yobe.
If it is not in Yobe , if it is in Adamawa. It is Bauchi, it is Kano,
Just yesterday, we learnt again of bomb in Plateau and so on. So, it is a
national issue which must be addressed by the Commander-in Chief. I
want to say that General Buhari, we are lucky, has a military background
and that would go a long way in helping him and guiding him on what to
do. And by the grace of God, whether from the house, my own house in
Kwankwaso or from Kano in Gandu Albasa, or from anywhere, we would
continue to support him by the grace of God when he becomes President to
succeed. Because that is very important, he has his version of
experience, I have my own version of experience, especially experience
in the area of security. We would rally around him to help him to
succeed.
Because his success is not only my own success, it is not only your
success. It is the success of this country and even beyond. Because even
our friends elsewhere are so worried, especially those who have
invested their money, especially those who want to invest in this
country and also those who like to respect this country. These people
are wondering what is happening in Nigeria. To answer that question is
that we need a good Commander in Chief and in my opinion, if Buhari goes
there, I see no reason why all these rubbish would not stop.
From the backdrop of what you have just said about Buhari’s
military background, are you saying in earnets that military Generals
are better than politicians in tackling …?
A: No, I didn’t say that. I didn’t say that. But still- even though
it is not the best question- you see in this particular area, a
General who has gone through the system over the years , under normal
circumstance, is in a better position to handle the issue of security.
It is very important. But that is not to say that he can ……. Let me not
go into that. Next question.
If, after your consultation, you were asked to go for the senate, would you accept the offer?
I am consulting and this consultation would soon end because it is
not an open ended thing. We have to take decision. I don’t want to say
anything. I don’t want to say anything that would appear in the dailies
tomorrow or on the radio today, without consulting with my friends
here and elsewhere. Because in politics. This is very important.
You may make up your mind but in politics, you have to touch your
friends and ask them what they think should be done. It is just like my
contest for the seat of the presidency, I had to consult widely and out
of that consultation, several people were committed to the project to
the extent that now you have seen the result and I think that the result
is good, in fact very good while because who came first- I told his
position – and I am number two in the contest despite the fact I am
just some entered the race about two months ago.
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